Lelith Hesperax is stated to have been notorious in the arenas before Vect was born.ģ. If there's one thing that Vect has brought the Dark Eldar, it's efficiency.Ģ. I doubt it would be anywhere near as efficient though. They were still slavers, and there's evidence in the Asurmen book of proto-Dark Eldar raiding Eldar worlds as their civilisation collapsed, so they would probably still be raiding. Vect brought in the idea of Kabals when he deposed the noble houses that previously ruled Commorragh (and would still have ruled Commorragh for quite some time post-Fall). No Kabals, and vastly different social structure. ![]() They're more akin to Corsairs/Refugees, but with a sizeable capital ship.ġ. So, add all that together and basically Craftworlders as we know them don't exist at all. Yes, I know there's instances of them in that Heresy book with Fulgrim, but I'm fairly certain that the author of that book didn't know the faintest thing about the Eldar beyond what's on the front of the Start Collecting box. Probably no wraith units because of the above. Presumably, those stopped working post-Fall as we don't see them in current armies (perhaps the shells of them went on to become Wraithguard, but seeing as Spirit Stones and Infinity Circuits are non-existent, they'd have no way of using them).ħ. Perhaps they had some sort of standing militia (which might have evolved into the Guardians), but pre-Fall Eldar relied on automatons for military endeavours. It's stated that the Craftworlds of today have grown massively in size since their pre-Fall trader days.Ħ. ![]() Craftworlds would be much smaller, and probably accompanied by a fleet of other fleeing ships. If anyone is venturing back into the maw of Slaanesh, they're certainly not coming back.ĥ. I doubt the Eldar even know that's how to get them at this point. Spirit stones either wouldn't exist or would be fantastically rare. Even if Iyanden had invented it in super-quick time after the Fall (unlikely given the turmoil), it would not have spread yet.Ĥ. Perhaps they had some sort of proto-Infinity Circuit aboard Eldar vessels as a sort of control mechanism, but certainly the idea of using it as storage for souls wouldn't exist. Certainly not enough time for it to become a way of life.ģ. No time to have spread it anywhere or teach anyone but the Asurya and perhaps a handful of others. Weird monks teaching weird spiritual junk to maybe a dozen dudes and dudettes. Even if they had just started, they would be far from established. Almost certainly they hadn't got to the point of travelling to the craftworlds to spread their teachings. ![]() Immediately post-Fall, Asurmen was still teaching the Phoenix Lords. Here's a list of things that I'd think would be different:ġ. During the Heresy, they'd still be scrabbling around in the ashes of their civilisation, trying desperately to survive. Given how soon after the Heresy happened, in terms of timeline the collapse of the Eldar civilisation was pretty much alongside the collapse of the Imperium. People often forget that the event that kicked off the Great Crusade was the Fall of the Eldar. What do people think the Eldar would be like during the Horus Heresy/30k setting? Personally, I'd think that they would be radically different from the Eldar factions you see today. Posted this up in another thread, but I thought it would be an interesting background discussion.
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